Episode 98 - Amelia Bayler - Uffie, Sex Dreams and Denim Jeans

“THIS Album…” with William Hann

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Hello and welcome to this album with me, William Hahn.

It's the podcast where each episode a guest and I are going to deep dive an album of their choice.

It could be any artist, it could be any genre, but it could be any year.

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And we we're going to discuss the songs, we're going to discuss the shows, we are going to discuss the artwork.

But what I really want to know is where my guest first heard the album of choice and the emotional attachment that they have to the record.

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And if all goes to plan, we're going to have a bit of a laugh while doing it.

Let's.

Just be serious.

Well, today I'm using the same script as last time.

By the way, I've not read another one.

Well, today I'm joined by a creative force of nature.

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She's the comedian.

She's a podcaster.

She's a food Blogger.

She's a wimpy enthusiast.

She's the front woman of a punk band.

The DJ.

And the spicy link is in bio is.

Oh, sorry if I'm right, Amelia.

It's just that you're giving me some funny looks.

1:18

It's Amelia Baylor.

Thank you so much for having me back back on the pod.

I loved it the first time we talked about Ministry of Sound dance compilation.

What's an album?

What?

Like, yeah, that was so fun.

We were being nerdy and we're going to be even more nerdy today.

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Up a little bit.

Let's know, let's get.

Nerding How was your experience in the first podcast?

I loved it, Yeah.

Like I really loved it.

It was funny because I think in that one I just increased my antidepressants.

I was going to mention this.

And now on this one I'm trying to come off so if I cry I then it's the meds.

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It's not because I find this album so deep and beautiful.

It was really funny at certain points, like it's really tell when the meds were having an effect on you.

It was like there's like a roller coaster like you'd be going.

It was really fun.

So I send that to my doctor and be like, yeah, I think this is the right decision to to wean off.

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But I enjoyed it.

Wean off sounds funny.

It's like weaner, but sorry, I'm really on fire.

Get it back on the meds.

Cut that out.

What am I talking about?

It's.

Fine.

How are you, Amelia?

I am very well.

2:24

I'm really excited to talk about this album.

I know that you just want to chat, but I realised that we went to the same.

I saw on your Instagram stories you posted Benny Kasim 2011 and I was also at that Benny Kasim festival.

What was your?

Experience at Benny Kasim, 2011.

Amelia Baylor.

So I met this guy that was carrying around a boom box.

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Always a good start.

Anecdote that go on a.

Guy that was carrying around a boom box and I thought he was the coolest guy ever because he had this boom box, right?

Simpler time on it.

You don't need Instagram followers when you've got a boom box.

Nature's Instagram followers.

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Like because I was following him around, so was everyone.

Because the music stopped at the festival this year, it was the.

Festival, particularly Lake Festival though, what the fuck?

Yeah, this was in the early hours.

Yeah, the early hours.

It was like, I feel like I might have seen Arctic Monkeys, The Strokes, The Streets.

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I feel like I did see a French Electro DJ play which links to the album which we're going to talk about.

Was it, you know, just self esteem?

Gustafelstein, Yeah.

Sorry, fuck.

You but.

I feel like I feel like I saw him, but it could have been any French Electro DJ.

3:37

They're all good though, right?

They're.

All brilliant, but yeah, basically I ended up having sex with this guy in his tent.

Thank you.

Thanks for that response.

Sick, sick.

And he was playing the most mental album ever.

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Like, it's just such an unhinged choice.

It's a rogue choice.

The very best of Stinging the please.

Fucking this is going to be a really fun episode.

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Isn't it like every song is just mental as well?

Like because Sting's doing his like faux Jamaican kind of accent.

Do you know what I mean?

Like when Sting used to do that and you'd be like, oh, it's the same guy.

I think there's two vocalists in staying in the he's in, he's putting on a voice.

4:26

One in white, one in black.

Don't think that would fly now.

Like, let's be real.

Yeah.

It's just such an unhinged, but like walking on the moon, That one's kind.

Of that one.

That's a bit sexy if you were to choose one song from the album that actually put that on your shagging playlist.

4:43

Walking on the Moon is kind of sexy.

Kind of sexy.

That's my hot take from today.

I know we're going to talk about different album, but yeah, if you want to, if you have a playlist, put that on there.

Rogue Choice.

Don't put anything else because Message Nepal is not sexy in any way.

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Well, I think the whole experience sounds particularly unsexy because that festival was a million degrees.

I was in a hotel, I had a few mates that were camping and they said after a day fuck that, I'm getting out of here and a band of the tents and come and sit at a hotel.

5:15

So you you plan to get a hotel?

Yeah, it's 35 fucking degrees, whatever it is.

But the least.

Sexy conditions possible, Yeah.

How horny must you have been?

It was like, I've never been so like, sweaty, like, come, you know, and you're like, peel yourself out of a tent at a festival.

5:31

I'm going to guess one of your workshags of your life.

Not even nearly William. 1,000,000 miles off mate.

Yeah, I used to meet people at festivals and be like, this person is the one.

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And this links with what album I chose.

And it's a French Electro album because I went to Rock Nest Festival, which is quite a cool Scottish festival, which isn't around anymore.

It's beautiful, by the way.

It's in the Highlands.

Loch Ness is like in front of you saw.

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This was when I realized.

I realised that I was into dance music maybe slightly more than indie music at the time, because I chose to see Groove Armada over Kasabian.

That's a watershed.

That's a watershed moment, right?

Where were you when I?

Made you but I was on like a double Decker bus right For some reason with a French guy called Foucault spelt Foucault, but Foucault and you know how it like sometimes people have like a aux cable situation.

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I've plugged my phone into the orcs cable.

This is my first ever DJ set.

What song did I choose to play for him?

Was this French guy?

No, no, this French guy and two other guys I think were like roadies at the festival who were just like fucked right and I put on M pop music.

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Do you know that song radio video boogie with a suitcase.

You're living in a disco.

Forget about the red race.

Let's do the milkshake sounding like a hot cake.

Try some, buy some FIFA.

No fun.

Talk about pop music.

Talk about you know.

It.

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What?

I was sweating.

What you would have given for me to be in the audience that night on that bus, hands in the air.

But then we like, I don't know how this happened, but we managed to sneak into like the breakfast bit for like the crew.

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I don't know how we blogged our way in.

Fuko was like a Blogger, you know, and then we this is, can I just say this was when I was like, we're younger.

So I actual like wouldn't do this now.

But we had sex in someone else's tent.

And it wasn't like in the camping bit.

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It was in like the middle of the arena.

There was like a crew bit that had tents in and we would like our love making was, you know, disturbed by somebody opening the tent and it was clearly their tent and they it.

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Was like a stranger's tent.

Yeah, yeah.

And the stranger had a T-shirt and written on the T-shirt.

I just look up and think, Oh my God, that's his tent across his T-shirt cunt in bold writing.

And weirdly, he was like the nicest guy.

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He was like, I'll leave you to it.

I mean, we are 10 minutes in.

Sorry, sorry.

I don't it's great, you know, can I just say like I don't normally talk about this stuff and that was just you know, I think when you're in your youth, you.

8:37

You have sex in tents all the time.

Yeah, but like, I think now I would just be thinking about thrush.

So yeah, when you get old, you think about your pH level.

You think about thrush regularly and you think of the pH level of your vagina.

I will not be, I will not be camping.

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I will not be having sex in a tent.

So.

If you're going to any festivals this year, do not hit me up.

Sorry I didn't know if that was a bit of a mad start to the pod.

I think the.

Ground running mate I think.

It's just, I think it's just, do you think, you know, the energy that you had at Benny Kasim?

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You would ever.

Do you think you could go to a festival now and be feral?

I'd say feral.

Adjacent.

I'd say feralish.

Feral.

What is Feral adjacent?

I've got makes that one loads of gear.

Yeah, that's feral adjacent is like you are taking cocaine, but you're you're doing it and you think I've got this.

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Do you know what I mean?

You're in the deluge.

I've got this under control.

That's I have booked in a spin class for Monday morning that's.

Fair, I might go to that.

Yeah, yeah, I might cancel.

I might make it.

You know.

Yeah, well, I'm at Truck Festival this weekend.

I'll report.

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Please message do like a bonus bit of the episode also at Benny Kasim.

I did not buy like proper food.

I went to the supermarket.

I think there was a little maybe.

I bought vodka, watermelon, bread, chorizo.

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Did I refrigerate any of that?

No.

Did I eat it all weekend?

Yes.

Did I throw bread inside my tent as a way to stop people stealing my stuff?

Yes, I just ripped up bread and I put it in the tent and I thought people will open that tent and be like fucking.

I don't know what was in there that was worth stealing, but anyway it.

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Was maybe?

Did I fuck use a condom babes again.

It's really Kasim and I got pregnant and I actually have a child.

Ben always staying with me tonight.

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Shout out Ben.

Anyway, yeah.

Wherever you are, this has been a lot of fun already.

Sorry, fuck sake.

Why don't you tell us which album we're discussing today, please?

Amelia Baylor.

Yes.

OK, so this album is offy Sex dreams and denim jeans, Yes.

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Let's get this party started right.

Sex Dreams and Denim Jeans is the debut studio album by French American Electro icon Offy Up.

He found Myspace for Reality in 2006 of her track Pop the Clock and was quickly signed to iconic French label Ed Bengar.

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However, her debut album Sex Dreams and Denim Jeans wouldn't be released for another four years.

It's an album that featured production from Ed Bengar cohorts such as Feds, Mr. Wazzo and the iconic Sebastian collaborations with The Rapture and Pharrell Williams.

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It featured crap.

We've got along to work on this.

It featured collaborations with the Rapture and Pharrell Williams and featured samples of Velvet Underground and a cover of Susie Sue and the Banshees.

What more could a skinny Jean party loving millennial possibly be looking for over a 48 minutes of perfect Electro pop?

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Wow, I actually wrote down those producers earlier, but my cue card is a ripped off bit of paper and yours are professionally printed.

See, I wrote, I wrote feeds and Mr. Wazzo and everything down because that is cool to.

Have all those.

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Producers on that album?

And was it true that Feeds and AFI were a couple?

This is my research had done.

So they were a couple and they think they got pregnant basically.

That's why her album took four years, because she wanted to spend a bit of time off, come back to it, grow up a little bit and they did a baby.

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So they made a record and they made a baby.

What a couple of years, Jesus.

Wow, so do you think are they like how can we describe like their working relationship like the Sony and share of Electro bangers?

Electro bangers.

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We were talking about this earlier.

There used to be so many more subgenres like talk.

This is all we want to say today.

Bring back subgenres, fidget house, French house, French Electro, funky house, big genre and funky house did really influence that Ed Bengar stuff.

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Do you know what I mean?

There's big crossover between that.

There's a lot of playlists that kind of, there's a lot of like French house playlists.

And even like French touch is quite different to the whole sort of friend, you know, Ed Bengar soil.

And a lot of it's like a good a mixture.

People like Falcon and they make very different music to Sebastian or Mr. Wazzo, right?

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But it's like, it's like all kind of cut from the same cloth.

The weird way a lot of it's quite funky, but it's got a gritty angstiness to it.

It's distorted disco.

It's distorted disco and it's it's got an urgency to it.

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Wow, I've never been so smart.

Are you on 6 Music right now?

Because this is pretty special.

Urgency.

So urgency.

This might be the most urgent record I've played all week.

Trying to redeem myself after sharing two really unhinged stories from before I got sober.

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But actually what I meant to say was that French guy Foucault was the reason that I then studied French at uni and the reason that I also got into like French Electro music.

It was that was another, like all kinds.

Of works your life in a massive.

Way I know it's, but I think that does happen.

I think you can meet one person and they can really influence you.

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Like, do you know that you have, like, a best friend in, like, early high school years who, like, I had idolized?

Yeah.

Or like someone that makes mixed CDs.

Do you know what I mean?

I think that's really important to music tastes.

So.

Thanks, Foucault.

Well.

That's kind of what we're doing on this podcast, right?

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We're trying to sort of be the catalyst for someone else to listen to Ed Bengar.

And it is funny, isn't it?

Ed Bengar Records.

What sounds better when you say every video?

Because I did that French degree because I thought.

Thank you, Foucault.

Because I thought if I got a French degree I would be signed to Ed Banger.

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How's it going?

Tumbleweed.

Tumbleweed.

You said how?

Where did you first hear this album?

I think somebody maybe sent it to me, but I can't remember who.

Which really that's pissing me off a lot.

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But there are a few people in my high school that were sharing that Ed Banger stuff.

So maybe it was like from that we were sharing the compilations.

And I know there's a couple of Uffy songs on there, but I think I really listen to this album like from cover to cover like regularly and it is like a proper journey.

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Talk about this journey, where does where does it take you?

So obviously Pop the Glock is a vocoder auto tune hit, it's hip hop, it's synth pop, it's Electro.

Here we go with the sub genres and the forward slashing.

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But obviously that I think that's the first track on the album.

And yeah, I, I, I love it.

I do think people do say like AFI walked so Charlie XCX could run and you know, even like Ke$ha and stuff has that, that same vocal.

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But people like you and me and a lot of people out there, we are just like AFI kind of like didn't create using auto tune or the vocoder because that was used in like a lot of 80s funk music.

Like more bounce to the ounce to that song.

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Give it a listen.

That's a good sex song actually.

More bounce to the ounce, 2 songs on the playlist.

That's all you need really.

That's enough.

If you asked my exes, hey, not really, but.

We're sex positive.

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We're sex positive, even if that sex lasts 3 minutes.

I'm positive about it.

I'm positive about the experience you said.

Yes to experience.

I'm really, no, I actually am like to be honest, I'm like, yeah, like that was great.

Maybe next time we'll be 5.

Like I I'm really a sex positive person.

16:50

Anyway, I'll come to my show if you want to hear about stuff like that.

Anyway, what I was thinking about when I was listening to this recently was let's put the kind of covers and the Inspired by the Velvet Underground tracks just to one side for a minute.

But there's 3 tracks that are basically diss tracks and she's just basically saying I'm a fucking legend.

17:09

You're all shy and I'm like yes I think it's MCS can Kiss Off and difficult are all basically diss tracks.

So in difficult she says don't worry if I write rhymes I write checks.

She's saying I've paid someone to write my rhymes for me.

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And I love the kind of unapologeticness of that.

And I think that's something that, you know, I'm a comedian.

Sometimes you get people to like, direct your shows and stuff.

And it's like being very like, yeah, I paid someone to to help me with some of this.

And she's just like, fuck it.

Like Jimmy Carr.

17:42

He should, you know, admit that he, when I was a kid, I genuinely thought he wrote all the jokes on it out of 10 cats.

I was so wrong.

I was so wrong.

But yeah, I love the ballsiness of that.

And in which one was it isn't.

We have got this little note here.

17:59

Oh, yeah, Ricky, that's another one that's also a diss track.

She says you're H&M.

I'm Paul Smith, Bitch.

I'm like, come on, like, and it's so new rave.

It's so millennial culture, like referencing those brands because everyone's wearing like H&M in that time, like neon H&M.

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And then also in Art of Off, this is part of that kind of like abrasive, aggressive, unapologetic stuff, she says.

I've even learnt to play the saxophone and you're the first ones to hear how it goes.

And then it's like the shittest sax solo ever.

It's so funny.

18:36

Like, I'm like, how much cocaine were you guys on when you made this?

It's giving it's really a cocaine album.

But maybe I'm not to be like rude, but maybe that's why they had to take a break in like making it because maybe they're like, OK, she's pregnant.

We we can't take cocaine, which is our biggest influence in this album, cocaine, hip hop and I don't know, ego.

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So maybe they had to, like, take a break and then they had to start again because it is like cocaine is dripping off this album.

It reminds me of like, you know, when you listen to Rick James's stuff.

It's not quite it's Cokie, though it's not far.

Off but it's it's.

Not far off.

19:17

It's magical, is what I mean.

So cocaine.

Gets a bad rap but like honestly you can pretty class sometimes.

I think it's made some.

The results speak to themselves.

Party all the time, Eddie Murphy, do you know what I mean?

That's giving.

That's giving.

Could do that glass of water, could you?

She couldn't do it with a glass of water.

19:34

Could not.

Also, that music video is so funny when everyone's because it's like Eddie Murphy.

Everyone's like anticipating, like everyone should watch this video on YouTube.

But it's kind of like Rick James in the studio with his band.

Eddie Murphy's like in the booth and like the anticipation of him walking towards that mic with the headphones on, kind of like your setup.

19:53

He starts singing.

Everyone's like shook it.

They're like every line he sings.

People are blown away.

And that song is huge.

That is a huge record.

On the on the Sex playlist or.

No, I was just thinking that and I was like, I would be too distracted.

20:10

It can't be too groovy because.

Eddie Murphy, Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

Like, wait, sorry.

Like, whoa.

They're trying to say something like I love you.

Like they say I love you.

Sorry.

Is that Eddie Murphy?

I would be like, did you, Rick James wrote and produce this like you just ruined our anniversary again.

20:33

Last time he ruined it was stinging the police.

So yeah, what are your thoughts on the kind of the diss track egotistical side of it?

Well, I think it's her defending herself as a woman in the very male dominated industry, right?

So she's surrounded by blokes at the record label.

She's pretty much the only woman really on the label, wouldn't she?

20:49

And I think it's her defence coming out all guns blazing.

I'm this.

I don't give a fuck.

Fuck yeah.

It's fucking amazing.

Yeah, it's great.

Shout out to women.

Shout out to women.

I AM 10.

God, it's just which one is it when she's like, can I get some cranberries in here?

21:07

Can I get some crackers and cranberries in here?

Oh, I.

Just a woman that knows what she wants and is not afraid to make it happen.

And I think if that's not inspiring you, Amelia?

That is seriously inspired me.

But I think it's the I think it's that she builds this world that we can, like, be a family on the wall for, like, you know?

21:30

Yeah.

Like it's this whole image of her in the studio and you're imagining that she's like laying down some sick bars that someone else has maybe written some of and she's asking for like crackers and cranberries.

Basically.

What a life canapes.

I think it might be a metaphor for cocaine.

21:46

Oh.

Shit, you're so right.

Can I get some cranberry and crackers please?

I think I know the answer to this question Amelia Veda, but what kind of impact fashion wise has uffy had on you?

Oh God, I mean, that whole scene was just I think I maybe did I talk about this on the other episode?

22:03

We did, but I remember I went into this like office when I was a teenager and I've told this story before.

I don't.

Think it was my show but go on.

I think I just tell this story all the time because it's just like so influential.

But there was a magazine called Super Super Magazine on the desk and it was this music office.

22:23

My dad was going to speak to someone, right?

Famously, he did.

Used to work in the muzak industry.

That's my kind of thing, Muzak.

But yeah, basically there was someone working there and I think their name was Joe Bot.

22:38

I don't know if what their, I don't know what their name is now or anything.

But anyway, on Myspace, that was then and it was this new rave magazine.

There was like the the magazine that invented new rave edited by Namali, who's a musician, creative invented like this style called maxi maximalism.

22:57

And I would just read this because I was living in a small town town in Scotland at the time.

From England we moved to Scotland and yeah, I'm totally fine with moving away from my whole family with my mum.

But anyway, my sort of connection to like city life was because we were like living in the country.

23:17

So I was like, what the fuck Do you know what I mean?

I should be there.

Yeah.

And I'm here.

The magazine was a portal to the world.

Do you want to be in?

My only connection to sort of England, like being in Scotland and like missing it a lot was watching EastEnders, how when it wasn't on, I was like, what the hell.

23:33

Anyway, this was, this was a long time ago and I'm glad that I live in Scotland now because turns out the Electro scene was really big there.

There was a club night called Death Disco at the Arches in Glasgow and stuff.

So there was a whole thing.

So I'm like, you know what, this is fine.

But like a few years before moving to Glasgow, living in the small town, disconnected from a lot of art really.

23:55

I mean, there's art, you know, at parties, people playing stay tonight.

Do you know, that's the that's the vibe.

Do you know what I mean?

The.

Acoustic guitars come out, three people are into Ed Banger, we're sharing stuff, whatever.

Anyway, this magazine was so influential and it was all like pictures of off, you know, like the club pictures.

24:13

Really overexposed.

Everyone's wearing bright coloured clothes, American Apparel, skinny jeans, all that shit.

Did you use to dress like that?

Right.

Guilty as fucking charged mate.

Guilty as charged.

I'll go through the archives.

I'll send you some photos.

And I mean, I put it this way, I once turned a shoelace into a scarf. 2, 1006.

24:43

Man, 2006.

That's actually too far.

Too far.

That's too far.

No, I need to see evidence.

It's 2006, it was baby blue.

25:02

It's a baby blue shoelace and I turned into a sort of like necktie slash skull did.

People say, wow, really like what you're doing.

It might surprise you, my friends weren't very supportive.

What did they say?

What the fuck are you doing?

There was a there was a band called Larrikin Love.

25:18

Oh.

I don't actually.

Big in 2006, and Ed Larrikin, the charismatic, extroverted lead singer.

He did it.

I was like, I'm doing that.

I'm definitely doing that, and I did that.

So you kind of got inspired by someone.

25:33

I don't know why, but it seems funnier if you weren't inspired you.

Started doing it.

I might make that into a small.

Necktie I was, I was going out with someone recently and they sort of, we had to have a difficult conversation about our relationship, right.

25:50

And it was like in the diary, like let's meet up, we will talk about it or what, See if we can work this out because I do not know if we are really, this is working.

And I walked into the South side in Glasgow to meet them, you know, and I was quite nervous about their, the conversation and they were wearing a bandana underneath a beret, you know, kind of like the hip hop thing.

26:18

Do rag.

Like, you know, like the actual like longer bandana, you know when people do it under like a cap, but very.

You tried to savage a relationship that couldn't be saved.

It was intense.

It was intense.

26:35

So yeah, I think it's that thought process of like, I'm really doing something here.

That's what I thought.

That's what I thought you were doing with the.

Shoe have I brought up trauma?

No, I just think it's funny when people wear like.

Here's my new thing.

Yeah, yeah.

You know, that kind of thing.

26:50

And I think it would be appropriate to bring a new thing into the wardrobe just on a normal day.

But I don't think when you're about to have like a series.

Kind of a series.

To try and save things.

So if you're listening, like God bless.

But that was the wrong outfit for that.

27:08

What was I going to say?

Oh yeah, just fashion.

So what were you like?

Because I feel like we had our set.

New rave pieces.

What were you?

I had the piece.

I had the fucking piece.

So Christmas 2006, my brother got me with what is undoubtedly the most treasured item of clothing I've ever owned.

27:26

Yeah it was a bright red Mickey Mouse jumper.

Now about 8 years later you could walk into Top Man and Top Shop and get Mickey Mouse stuff.

Let me tell you, in Hillingdon 2006, only one cunt wearing that is this guy.

27:42

That is so cool.

It was mad.

I loved the thing.

I honestly, I can't stress enough how much I lived in that jumper for about two years straight.

It was all I wore.

Did you wear it to gigs and stuff?

You're in the queue.

The Mickey Mouse guy, like I go to the same places in London, all the indie nights and stuff.

They might, you know, ideally a girl might notice me and then the week later he's back.

28:02

But that never quite worked out.

But I did wear it a lot and it was a conversation starter and I started a thing wherever someone come to my house, big old party the next morning, I'd make them wear the jumper.

And I've got like a collection of photos on Facebook of people wearing my jumper the night after the morning after a big night, Pretty sick that's.

28:23

Really cute as well.

One of them being my wife the night after.

But yeah.

Oh.

That's really.

Cute.

I've still got it.

I've still got it.

It still fits and I might wear at the truck festival this weekend.

Please.

I'll report back.

I will report back.

I might do it now.

28:39

I've said it out loud now.

Did you wear like you know the plimp soles?

Oh, big plimp sole guy.

Yeah, big time.

I they.

Like school they're like PE plimp soles but you buy them in top man for like 3 times the price.

I had one pair of baby blue Converse.

28:55

I had two pairs of jeans that I just fucking lived in.

Skinniest.

But a lot of Fred Perry as well.

A lot of vintage Fred Perry and not much else.

I was skin, you know what I mean?

I don't have money for clothes.

I knew what I wanted to wear, but you know, price was a concern.

Yeah, I had one pink pair of American Apparel jeans I've.

29:12

Never had any much American Apparel like 2010 when I started earning money.

And like they were tight.

We're doing funny looks now by the.

Way.

Sorry.

Yeah, this is my podcast.

Sorry, but.

I love it.

I love it.

Honestly, it's part of I love it.

It's part of the culture and the community.

29:28

In the scene part of the indie sleaze thing, it is funny that it's like coming back in such a big way.

Like, it's pretty cool.

I knew this day was.

Going to bug out.

Unmissable.

So have you?

Set Have you joined the WhatsApp?

I've already got guessed this for it.

I'm jealous I'm I've set a thing on WhatsApp to get a notification.

29:49

Well honestly, I'm going to put it out there, none of my mates are really up for it.

Amelia, if you want to be my plus one, you're more than welcome.

I'm actually dead.

Like I'm actually shocked.

Thank you.

Paid for itself isn't.

It but honestly when I saw that that come up or.

30:05

That lineup is outrageous.

With that soul wax mix of working.

Yeah, what a tune.

By the way, that is a massive.

Believable tune.

Yeah, that's.

Let's go for a little bit.

Who got who is it?

So you got too many DJ's?

You've got Errol Elkins.

Errol Elkins there.

Sebastian's there.

30:21

That's huge for me.

You've got friendly fires playing live.

What the fuck?

What the fuck, man?

What the fuck?

And.

It's too many DJs.

Did you say that?

Yes, I did.

I can say it again if you want.

I'm.

Sorry, I'm just repeating the ones.

Did you?

Yeah.

Friendly fires were there, but yeah, we'll be there outside.

30:38

But maybe I'll.

Wait, no, that is too many.

DJs.

I think there is.

There is so much too many DJs.

Oh, that's cool.

But I think maybe we should put this out the week before.

That's good.

I've got something in.

My eye I think it's tears because you said I could be your blood swag.

Like genuinely, what the fuck?

30:54

Yeah, you're welcome.

No, it makes her up for it.

So you can reap the benefits.

Amelia.

I sure like.

Got something in my.

Eye.

Oh shit, it's OK.

OK.

What emotions do you feel when you listen to Afiz?

Oh.

31:10

I just forgot what it's called there, could you tell?

Sex.

Dreams and.

Denim jeans.

Thank you.

I find a lot of humour in it now.

It's funny in it.

It's like laughter and emotion.

Really funny.

Yeah, it's funny.

I mean, I we haven't really covered the, the well, there's two almost covers, but like so random to have a cover of Hong Kong Garden by Susie and the bad she's just thrown in there.

31:36

And then also Sex Dreams and Denim jeans is inspired by Rock'n'roll by the Velvet Underground.

But the actual melody line of Sex Dreams and Denim jeans is the guitar, like the lead guitar, like the it's called.

31:56

It's also the vocal as well.

But yeah, it's mad because it's not like a, it's not like a bar by bar cover.

Do you know what I mean?

It's Rock'n'roll by the Underground.

Might be my favorite of the guitar solo.

That one that it's funny, it's kind of funny.

32:13

It's kind of just like saying it's almost like the sax solo it's.

Almost like the sax solo.

And it's it's like saying a big fuck you to like these kind of perfect records.

You know what I mean?

It's kind of saying you can you can give a live element.

32:29

I was so I kind of like joke about this because when my band play, my band called Amelia and the snacks were like a punk band.

But when we play, I always joke that the live band is so different from the studio band.

We do haven't got anything recorded yet, but I just mean when we rehearse in the studio, because I'm just shouting a lot and jumping and things sound different.

32:48

Do you mean the vocals sound like kind of more like like angsty, right.

And I'm like, well, Joy Division, we're a very different live band to recorded, you know, live they were very angsty, recorded, they were very polished.

Well, that is like a point of contention, isn't it?

33:03

Because people.

Like because.

People are like, oh it's over produced or whatever, but you know, it is fun when stuff that's recorded and released has that kind of edge to it via the guitar solo and rock'n'roll or the sax solo in Alfie's album.

33:23

Did you think Alfie live before Amelia Baylor?

I have not.

You know, I've gutted about it.

Have you?

I actually have under quite good circumstances, that bugged outline up you mentioned.

I've got a better one for you.

33:40

I was at one of the print work closing parties, right?

And it was Ed Banger, 20 year anniversary, fucking Ed Banger takeover.

It was fucking stacked, right?

So you had is it Eleanor?

Alex breaks.

I think it's Al or no.

Don't ask me this.

33:55

I'm spiralling now even.

Them are very French aren't they actually?

Fred and Al.

One of them ones and.

Fred and Al.

Yes.

Anyway, one of them was there.

Falcon was there.

DJ Busy P, you add.

Justice were there.

That was one of the best things I've seen in my life.

34:12

Erlalcan fucking everyone.

Sebastian was supposed to be there.

He had to pull out.

That was sad.

And AFI was there as well, right?

And she came out and done the party at one of the best venues I've been to my life.

Have you ever seen Printworks?

I've never been.

Fuck, man.

34:27

No, honestly, like when clubs close and stuff I feel and like I never got to experience so it makes me really fucking depressed or ones that I've been to that close the arches for fuck's sake in Glasgow.

What a tragedy.

34:44

Like it was like such a important venue for like music, art, but like it was where death disco was, which was like a huge Electro night and also like pressure, which the techno night.

It was just, yeah, anyway, Printworks AFY, do you remember?

35:03

Like what was she wearing like?

I wasn't so many magic mushrooms I couldn't tell anyone was wearing and.

That's appropriate for that event.

Like see, if you weren't, I would be more like disappointed if you could say what she was wearing in detail.

I would be annoyed.

Come on mate, I don't even know why I asked.

Come.

On Are You Straight?

35:18

What the fuck?

So embarrassing that you can know what Afy's wearing.

What a.

Beautiful woman was wearing on stage now.

Not a clue mate.

I was off my tits.

I couldn't tell you.

How would you sell this album to someone that's never heard it before?

If you want to hear the origin story of all your favorite pop girlies in 2025 onwards, then you need to listen to this album.

35:44

This inspired all your favorite artists.

This was one of Charlie XX's inspirations I imagine.

Don't quote me on that, but like you can kind of.

Couldn't she feature on one of Charlie's albums?

Oh.

I don't know actually.

I've got a feeling she is on actually, that album that's full of special guests.

36:05

Let's work it out on the remix type.

But yeah, this album is it's unique, it's innovative, it's funny, it doesn't take itself too seriously, and it creates a fun world in which you can enter if you want to just walk down the street and listen to the full 45 minutes.

36:28

I don't think I sold it very well.

I'm sold.

I want.

To I don't think I sold it.

I want.

To put it on again, no, that was good.

Can you do it?

No.

Can you actually try and like do your version of that?

Because I fucked it.

I'll have a guy, I'll have a guy.

I feel sad.

Are you a woman?

Are you a woman that doesn't find hasn't found your place yet in the world of French Electro bangers?

36:49

Oh thank God someone is there flying the flag for femininity.

Trailblazing years before we knew women even existed in music.

A big fuck you to the male dominated house music of their time.

Confidence, self worth, all wrapped up into 45 minutes of creativity.

37:10

It's got some bangers on it as well.

It's really good.

I like was that alright?

That was way better.

Than mine I've asked that question about 80 Times Now on this podcast and that's the first time someone's made me do it it's hard and I feel really bad now making me it's really.

Funny that I just like, you know, reverse that.

No, I can't bother with William.

You do it, mate.

Yeah, have a go.

That is what happened is I ran out of steam.

37:27

I realised that like I've.

Done free podcast today, by the way.

You're actually in a flow state though.

Yeah, I'm on a flow state.

I've not eaten.

Apart.

When you need it to pee like.

Yeah, brings you back down to Earth a little bit.

Who else do you think this influence?

Because we've said Charlie XCX, but like, well.

37:43

That's the big one, isn't it really?

But I think any of those, sort of any of those pop girlies of that era.

Do you think like, yeah, I'm just trying to think of other but.

That's not a bad legacy, is it?

You know what I mean?

Really good brat.

That's pretty good going.

Yeah, I think it's funny though, because I've makes me feel so old.

38:03

Everything makes me feel old when I'm like.

For a pain in the middle of a when I'm like when I'm like, you guys don't know you don't know about French electric.

You don't know about smoking cigarettes indoors.

You don't know about.

Any cocaine?

You had a cocaine, have you?

No, I think he has.

38:19

Too busy drinking your matches.

Why have we gone, Boomer?

But what I mean is yeah, I never feel more millennial is when I bring up like, Ed banger records, like you weren't there.

You don't get it, do you?

They had compilations.

Yeah, before Spotify.

It's.

Like a playlist but on ACD?

Yeah.

Is there anything about this album we've not covered that you'd like to mention Amelia Baylor?

38:40

One moment I've written sax solo sub genres.

That's when we were like saying, oh, oh, I guess I just wanted to say, yeah, you know, the whole thing of having a cover that's not actually a cover.

39:00

I actually did that in my band with Do you know this is not a love song by Public Image Limited?

This is not a love song.

No, I don't really.

I just the public image.

Did it for the first time about two weeks ago, didn't really like it.

Just this I'm get like this.

I get really obsessed with one song by an artist.

39:17

So this was like the I got really obsessed with one song because I heard it in a club when I was like bouncing back from a like a depressed time and I just felt alive.

I rinsed it.

But that song is, it's got like a guitar line.

39:35

It's like, yeah, it's kind of a fun one actually.

I don't actually don't even know what the other stuff is like at all.

But challenging?

I'd say challenging.

Challenging.

It wasn't urgent.

It was challenging.

Yeah, we're using big words and there's.

Probably we're using 6 Music words now mate.

39:51

Music, they're going to call.

They're calling us now, but my phone's in aeroplane mode.

But they're definitely calling us at 10:00 PM on a Tuesday.

But I sort of use that maybe subconsciously with my band because we have a song called.

Sorry for being such a hot bitch.

40:09

Such a hot bitch.

And that's kind of like almost a cover of This is not a love Song, but it's just not at the same time.

Just kind of steals a bitch.

Yeah, that's what we call it and almost see.

You in court, Johnny?

Ron.

Fuck, he's the kind of person.

40:26

Is that his name?

John Lydon I.

Guess yeah.

Yeah.

Now he calls himself that.

He's the kind of guy that would he will.

See you in court.

Nowadays.

He's a petty man.

It's.

Like you can't invent punk music and then just.

Like sell butter and then sue Amelia Baylor.

40:42

That's.

Fun.

If anyone's listening, do not say anything.

I was just saying that to sound cool and it's not inspired.

It's good, it's good.

Amelia Baylor.

This has been amazing and may I say better second time round IRL.

41:01

Fuck Zoom.

Yeah, fuck Zoom.

But we're not done yet.

I mean, oh shit, we have got one last feature that we're doing and it's basically indie sleeves.

Winner stays on.

Right, got it.

One of these ones.

Like, sorry, who's the new Prime Minister?

41:16

What have I forgot?

Andy Burnham.

He did one of these.

Did you see on?

Instagram, I did see this.

We're doing a just.

Because you listen to Smith doesn't mean you can pretend that you're like a Labour person that isn't like, quite centrist, do you know what I mean?

He's just like I like New Order.

41:33

Everyone likes New Order.

Backed me up to see that on Instagram because it wasn't even a collab.

It was from his own Instagram that but then I just thought, well, that's what you have, but it's.

Hilarious, isn't it?

You've got to.

You've got to sell products, right?

Because I was reeled in by it.

Shall we have some fun?

41:49

Yes, we're allowed to have fun.

We're not in politics.

We can have a laugh.

We can.

Have a laugh.

OK, Winner stays on Indy Sleaze edition The gossip or MGMT The gossip?

Easy.

The gossip or Phoenix.

The gossip?

The gossip or justice?

42:06

Oh, Justice.

What guy Justice?

What's Sebastian?

Justice.

Justice or Simeon Mobile Disco.

Simeon mobile Disco because that song sleep deprivation and also I'm a hustler baby.

That's what my dad, that's what I listen to when I'm doing my only fans content, like genuinely.

42:23

We need to plug that actually.

I mean your snack.

End of the show.

You can plug that stuff right?

So hold tight.

Simian, Mobile, Disco or soul wax?

Oh, soul wax.

Easy soul wax or Errol Elkan.

Errol Elkan.

His remix of The Bay by Matronomy is literally just one of my favorite songs ever.

42:40

Shout out to Errol.

Errol Alkan or CSS Errol Alkan.

OK.

Yeah.

Errol Alkan or Mia?

Errol Alkan saw him DJ recently in Glasgow and it was fucking brilliant.

What a man.

Brilliant.

He actually played I went to Ed Bangler, 20th Anniversary or Santigold, OH.

43:02

I'm going to stick with you can.

Stick the barrel.

I just, you know, we also did that song with voice noise called Lemonade.

It's.

That's homage.

See you in court, Errol.

Can or Peaches?

Oh God that's a hard one, but I'm sticking with Errol Can.

43:20

Forever Errol can or Robin Errol can or the room.

Oh, Errol Elkan.

Errol Elkan.

Elkan.

Elkan.

Errol or Crystal Castles.

Oh see, I just like, really rinsed their first two albums.

43:39

I would say Crystal Castles because that was like such a huge part.

Is that Crystal Castles?

Indie sleeves journey.

I'm sorry, that's mental.

Sorry Errol, nothing lasts forever.

I know that is mental, but their first two, I love their second album.

Like it's quite emotional.

The the the guy the producer turned out to be an absolute type bag, but Alice?

44:00

Alice.

Glass Forever.

On this podcast, we support women, Crystal Castles or Hot Chip.

Hot Chip, Hot Chip.

Come on, hot.

Chip or Amelia in the snacks?

Amelia in the snacks.

Amelia in the snacks or?

AFY I've never done one of those.

44:18

It's actually really hard but also really fun.

I've like never done that.

Thank you.

That's a really good. 1.

Oh really?

This has been such a laugh mate.

Thank you for doing this.

The floor is yours to plug or promote anything that's happening in your well.

So thanks for having me on like I really enjoyed the last one, but it is really nice to do it in person.

44:36

And just like, no doubt I want to like, formally apologise for opening the episode by talking about like, shagging, it feels.

Like so long ago, now doesn't.

It I know it feels like five hours ago and just you can follow me on Instagram at Amelia Baylor.

I do like comedy.

44:52

I've got the band Amelia and the snacks come to one of our punk gigs.

It's normally in Scotland.

So if you're in Scotland, do that manifest a gig for us in London.

I would love to do that.

I'm an only fans at Amelia snacks.

See a lot of snack based stuff.

It's very, very fun on there.

And yeah, I'm doing I'm I do comedy and I was going to say I'm doing the fringe, but this is going to come out in October before we get we go to bugged out and have the best fucking time ever.

45:17

I'm going to relapse.

Fuck it, I'm joking.

But yeah.

So yeah, just get me.

Do you know what?

Just get me on Instagram.

I'm you know me.

I shit post.

Like get on Instagram the replicate care of itself.

Yeah.

And oh, I have a podcast called Funny Looks, which we sort of did a preview of there, and it's about performers or not, Not actually just performers now, people in their relationship with like clothes.

45:38

There's a few clothes podcast kicking about now, but mine always gets people to like, like troll, but that's my speciality.

So like I just did in your podcast, thanks so much.

Ivan William Ham, she's with Amelia Baylor.

45:54

She was offy.

And this, well, this has been this album.

I fucked it.

Sorry.

I fucked the ending.

This album, Yeah, it doesn't work when I do After You, Not as good.

46:18

Yay, thank you, that was so fun.

I think we nodded out.

I think we got the balance just right there.

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