Hello and welcome to this album with me, William Hann.

It's the podcast where each episode a guest and I will deep dive an album of their choice.

It could be any artist, it could be any genre.

Well, guess what guys?

0:28

It could be any year.

And we we're going to discuss the songs, we're going to discuss the shows, we'll discuss the artwork and but none of that matters.

None of that matters because what I really want to know is where my guest first heard the album of choice and the emotional attachment that they have to the record.

0:47

And if all goes to plan, we're going to have a right old laugh while doing it.

Now, normally guys, what I do, I do quite a long meandering introduction for my guest that I spend far too much time writing and editing.

But I've got a much simpler introduction today and I need your help for it a little bit.

1:02

OK, OK, just a little bit.

It'll all make sense really shortly.

OK.

Today I'm joined by Wesa Cowboy.

We should have managed we.

Can do that.

Yeah, OK.

It's worth it.

We can.

West Side Cowboy.

1:20

There you go.

Thank you.

Thank you.

West Side Cowboy.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I'm so sorry, guys.

What a monster.

Not at all.

Hello.

How are we?

What's the vibe, sweaty?

Lot of that about.

It's very sweaty.

Yeah, yeah.

I think maybe we should set the scene, shouldn't we?

Where are we today?

1:35

Where is this?

We're in.

We're in London, yeah.

I don't know how how I'd focus on that one.

I'm going to focus on this one.

We're in London and it's, it's I supposedly 37° or something, 30 maybe, I don't know.

1:52

But it's we, we, we forgot the, we forgot that it was going to be warm except for Paddy obviously and, and came in, we came overdressed.

Yeah, I didn't my first time wearing shorts while podcasting.

So, you know, wish me luck.

2:08

Let's see how we get on, guys.

How's it feeling?

It feels pretty good so far because it's the hottest day of all time, but it's immense occasion, so today is another stepping stone in England bringing it home.

How are we feeling about the football guys?

Very, we're very excited.

Me, me and Paddy are the only ones who care about it really.

2:27

But we've been, we've been waiting for this all week.

We're going to we're going to sit in our Travelodge and and watch the game and we're very excited and we really like Thomas Tuchle.

The reviews are in.

This is huge, big day.

2:43

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, I yeah, yeah.

What?

What you said.

In case they asked me to play.

Yeah, the call UPS happening, is that what you're saying?

Yeah, always on you've.

Been they have to go through.

So many people and like they'll just, it's like getting drafted.

You just get caught.

2:59

I've I've heard.

So well is your phone on silent or we do not disturb?

Understood, Understood.

It's a pretty exciting time for you guys.

You've got something very big coming up soon, haven't you?

Tell me about the debut album.

It Goes On is out on the 21st of August.

3:17

We we really like it.

It's our first album.

We did it in Leeds with some really good friends.

Yeah, I don't know what more it's.

I'm trying to think, sorry.

It's weird.

3:33

Normally I'd people can't shut me up but.

Well, I'm interested because you bought of Lauren, right?

For Lauren Humphreys, I should say for the EP.

It is actually Lauren, which I was very confused about when I first met him and because it's the name of my cousin who is.

3:48

It should make it easier, right?

Yeah.

I realized that was possible.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, same my cousin.

Another Lauren girl though.

Lauren girl, This is Lauren, This is Lauren Boy.

So is that are they saving your phone?

Yeah.

We, we.

4:04

No, no, no, by all means.

We, yeah, we, we've been working with Lauren for about a year now.

Is it nearly We?

He helped us.

We went over to America and record recorded our second DP with.

Him.

And that was a great fun to to meet him and to work with him in in his studio and his environment.

4:24

So where is that?

What's the environment?

Paint a picture.

From him, that's it up in is it upstate New York or is it just New York?

That was just.

Classic New York classic.

Place called Diamond Mine in Long Island City and and it was, it was like nearly, it was like August of last year and it was like sweltering heat.

4:42

Like this it.

Was very similar to this and we felt like it was a fun experience, but it was a lot of like learning at the same time.

Like we were getting to know Lauren and he was getting to know us and we were quite far from home.

So I think for the we really loved working with him, but we maybe for the first album wanted to be like closer to where we're from really.

5:03

So we decided to ship him over in a container and thaw him out in Leeds.

And.

Yeah, we managed to get the American all the way to Armley in Leeds, in the basement of a church out of the big city.

5:18

So what are the big differences between New York and Leeds then, guys?

Better way better Chinese take away in Leeds.

Salt and pepper just down the road.

That's gutted and the man's so nice.

He always gives us like 3 LB off because it's cash only and I'll be oh I didn't know that.

5:40

We we don't, we don't say we're students.

He just, he just, he just assumes like yeah, yeah.

And so, yeah, he's like, if you can do it cash, then we'll do we'll do it for it always comes to 40 lbs.

5:56

It's like that sketch.

Who's that guy?

Is it Leon Bridges?

The guy £40 that.

One there's.

A There's a There's a comedy comedy thing 11 comedy There's a comedy sketch where apparently everything in Glasgow is £40 is.

6:11

It Lemmy maybe?

No, it's, it's like, it's like an old one.

Kevin Bridges.

Kevin Leon Bridges, isn't he?

Leon Bridges, the.

Singer, soul singer.

Yeah.

I don't want to jump in straight away, but yeah, OK, But yeah. 40 quit it's.

Also less congested leads and better accent.

6:29

It's got more horses.

More horses, way more horses.

I'm getting an idea of what's important to you guys.

This is good.

And so a bit about the process of working with Lauren then what does he get out of here?

We first the first time we ever spoke with Lauren was over Zoom and he just like kind of like in like I'm affectionately kind of raved and like ranted about like old recording basically and like particularly like the 70s and how like we really loved how he basically showed us all of these diagrams of like old recording setups and they are all like so like on by the book.

7:09

There's like no like bleed everywhere, piano next to the drums, vocals and like, you know, and like, and he would basically just kept on saying this thing.

He was like, like everything added together can make an awesome sound, but not everything has to be perfect like on its own.

And we, that was really refreshing because we felt like every time we went to record, there was like a pressure for things to always sound like massive and like like we were playing in like the some stadium when in reality we've just played in like up to that point, just my bedroom and like various pubs in Manchester really.

7:44

So that was really appealing to us.

And then he really focuses a lot on there's like very little like post stuff that he likes doing apart from like he runs it into like he's really passionate about like analogue recording and tape.

But like, it's all just with him.

8:01

I don't want to like speak for him, but like he's like, let's make things sound nice first and make sure you will play well.

Well is a very relative term as well.

Like we can be speeding up and slowing down or whatever, but like if it feels good, it's right and then it's like what was always.

8:19

So what's really what we like about the album is how like we feel like compared to when we like walked away after doing the take to how it sounds now, there really isn't a whole great deal of difference.

And sometimes you record it and then it's just like sounds world apart by the time it's finally mixed and things.

8:37

But I think that's because he cares so much about like those foundational points.

And we do too, because we don't really we're not very good at like faffing around with other stuff.

I don't know anyone else have anything to bad?

Yeah, you mentioned there about, you know, standing like you're playing stadiums, but you're playing bigger and bigger rooms at the moment, guys.

8:56

So I was lucky enough to see you play a particularly big room in London supporting Geese.

What a night, what a show, guys.

Thank you for showing me a very lovely time.

How comfortable are you playing those bigger rooms now?

So that was like, that was like, I felt like one of our scariest shows of last year.

9:12

And especially when you find out the fact that Bruce Springsteen did his very first UK show there in like 1975 S to to to walk walk on that stage was very, very scary.

A.

Lot of history in that room.

Great fun though.

Did you enjoy this show?

9:28

Was you able to sort of be in the moment or was it all a bit?

You didn't like it?

I I.

I, yeah.

I don't know why.

I think I, I, I think sometimes it's just just the day it was not like wasn't the favorite show in the world.

9:44

I think it was like a really big stage as well, which is always scary.

We're like very boring thing.

But we still use like, like physical monitors.

We don't have it.

It is.

And so like when you have monitoring like that and it's not great, like kind of you feel like you're in this weird, like dream, like Jeopardy, like Ghost.

10:03

Yeah, it's, it's odd.

And then you like take a step back and you like can't hear anything but like a little bit of snare and you're like, this isn't.

What I'm using?

But it was really great because when we finished, like we got to go into the crowd and just be Geese fans, which is what we started out as, which is very cool.

10:24

Amazing.

Well, that's sort of tapped in as I'm not going to ask you guys about.

So you're playing some pretty big rooms at the end of this year.

It's your turn basically.

It feels like you're handing the baton on to someone else now, right?

This is exciting.

So I'll be keen to know like what kind of advice you'd have liked to have been given when you're taking on these supports plots and what you'd be doing for the bands that supported you at the end of the year.

10:43

I always like the idea and we sort of, we sort of came to this, you know, when, when we started, when we had the offer to do Black Country.

I really, and I just generally really love the idea of this.

11:01

When you're given 1/2 an hour, the people in the audience don't know who you are or like assume that the people in the audience don't know who they you are and give them every possible reason to like you and play like, like play with as much intent as you as you would like it at your own show.

11:23

Like I, I actually think we as a band are probably better support acts currently than we are headliners because it's like, I like we love playing everything at 1,000,000 miles an hour.

And like having like we call it the half hour of power where we show.

11:42

We literally feel like we, we feel like we get as much of West Side Cowboy across in that time as we, we possibly can at this point, you know, And actually when doing an hour, we feel like we feel like there's sort of more gaps for things to fall down.

12:00

Like it's, it's, it's a little more terrifying.

So I guess I would say that just like like grab the half an hour by the the horns, you know, and just like absolutely go for it.

Mission accomplished.

I mean you smashed it that night.

It's really funny but mate, next to me, he didn't know you guys at all.

12:17

I was already in and he sort of nudged me about 3 songs and he goes live music.

It's class, honestly.

It's not normally this good.

That's the thing.

It's like this is a good night.

We're having it tonight.

Yeah, it was amazing.

And I know it's something I didn't know about you, Paddy.

12:32

I didn't know you had eight arms.

You're really, really good at drums.

Where's these extra arms?

Coming you've seen Spider Man 2.

I saw the trailer.

He's got, he's got.

The that guy, yeah, yeah, he's got those.

He's got the pack.

We, I don't know, it was, it was starting, starting this band was like, was we like I grew up sort of playing drums, I guess.

12:56

And then like you get into other things.

And then we also like, we're lucky enough to go to like uni and study music and I went to kind of study drums and that for the, I was there maybe like 3 or 4 weeks and I was like, oh, this kind of no, no fault of anyone else, but I was like, oh, this kind of sucks.

13:17

Kind of like not in again.

There was some very inspiring people there, but it wasn't really why I wanted to play.

So I kind of stopped for a while, like at least like really trying to play, I guess.

And then when we started the band, it was like, Oh, I'll just, I get a chance to play drums again.

13:34

And it's kind of just playing.

We all kind of play like we've just like we were like as if we've without any sort of pretence like.

Freedom to it is that.

Yeah, it's just sort of like when you get into music and you're so excited about it, when you're like a teenager or like a kid and you just want to like go as fast as you can and just have fun with your friends playing.

13:57

And then you learn about technique and and and and taste and all those things, which is again, very good things to have.

But is this band is kind of a lot like just trying to speak to our younger selves and all and just being like, let's just go and have fun and like play like just like we mean it, I guess.

14:17

And that can, I don't know a lot of to be honest, like the way the drums are like it's just fucking just smashing around, to be honest.

And I think it just sorry, that's a very nice thing to say.

Sorry.

And I'd like to hear it, Paddy.

That's perfect.

But that's the thing.

14:33

I don't think I'll, I'll personally, I'll never get bored of that hearing.

Four young people have the time of their lives playing songs at 1,000,000 miles an hour.

That's what it's all about.

So thank you for giving me exactly what I want.

Yeah, thank you for for taking something from it.

It seems like you guys have got like a really big bond and like a community around what you do.

14:53

So doesn't a bit more about the community you guys are in and yeah, what it means to you.

Manchester, we, we really love Manchester.

We all came to Manchester from different places to study and it feels like the biggest small city in the world and there and it was we us to Jim's a couple of years older.

15:12

And Jim, we met Jim, well, I knew him for a few years, but we all met at Union and lockdown had just lifted.

It was like restrictions had just gone.

It was kind of back to normal.

And as a result, loads of like 1819 year olds had all moved to this city and we're just desperate to start bands and things.

15:31

And, and that's what we all did.

We like met and we'd like, we'd known each other a week and we'd started our first band and just started getting involved, just playing.

There's so many like tiny pubs and clubs in Manchester that like have music on every night.

And what's the?

Best of the bunch?

15:47

What are the big spots?

Oh, we can.

I don't know.

There's starring Soren Garter is pretty good.

It's hard to choose.

We've never.

Yeah.

Soren Garter, if you're listening.

Starring Garter Pretty Good fuel is like a rite of passage in Manchester.

16:03

It's.

Like fuel?

I don't know fuel.

Fuel is just it's in Withington.

It's like got a pretty, pretty rudimentary sound system and people, the shows are just like you turn up and then maybe there's a drum kit there and, and you've got to take your amp up these like really narrow stairs and but like every band's played there ever.

16:22

The the, the, the guy who used to do sound when we, we, we played there back in the day, we used to wear a dressing gown for the whole time like that.

That's the type of place it was like the even the even the gig.

He'd be there.

16:37

He'd be there.

Was it, was it Ollie?

It was Ollie.

Yeah.

He now.

Has, I think he now works at like Factory International.

So he's gone.

He's gone way up in the world.

I hope he's kept.

I hope he's kept the the dressing gown.

I thought I was under dressed in shorts today.

I think my dressing gown was an option but.

Yeah, but but yeah, fuel is fuel is really great.

16:55

Our second ever second ever show was there.

An 80 cap room I think it's not very big at all yeah and they they they say can you not jump around too much because the floor will bend we since.

Like booked it out ourselves for, for like the first ever, like no bunders and island gig that we put on that we helped put on.

17:18

And I remember being so scared selling tickets because we'd never like we'd play gigs, but we hadn't tried to put anything on.

And I was like, we need to be really careful because the floor's and what happens if what happens if it collapses and we we kill people?

17:34

What?

Happens when we fall through the roof.

What are we going to do?

But it does feel like that sometimes.

Any fatalities yet?

We're OK, no.

We're all good.

Fantastic.

But there's honestly, there's so many great small rooms in Manchester, which I think is like a big reason to why it feels like there's so many bands coming out of it at the moment, because it feels like a really like fertile space for like new bands.

17:57

It's fertile, the word that people say.

I mean it.

Was like an agricultural sense, not in like a reproductive way there's.

A There's a cross over, I think, fertile look at.

You grimace.

Yeah, grow up.

I really wasn't expecting to hear.

That.

But it's the thing now actually, guys are getting busier and busier.

18:15

Less and less time in Manchester.

I know as she was in Glasgow on the weekend.

I watched your performance to transmit yesterday.

How was it?

Do you enjoy yourselves?

Yeah, it's good.

Not used to cameras.

We're not, we're not used to cameras at all, especially when the camera guy kind of looked like Paddy's dad.

18:32

Oh, wow.

And then they're like, oh, we're going to film.

It's like, yeah, OK.

And then he comes on stage and sort of like, is it like in front of you?

It's like Paddy's dad, what are you doing?

But I.

Thought.

Yeah, it was good.

That's.

Going to be a regular ongoing situation now, guys.

Cameras in your face, on stage.

18:48

Hopefully not too much Let's.

See what the summer brings.

You're supporting the Maccabees next month.

The Maccabees are one of the best bands in the world.

I'm really excited you're.

Excited I I used to listen to Colour it in before I went to.

What an album.

All the time, yeah.

Someone gave me that album when I was about 15 and I used to play all the drums and stuff.

19:07

Yeah, yeah.

Really excited.

We saw them last year at all points as.

Well, I was going to say because yeah, I was.

I was at all points that day.

I was really excited to see your band.

You clash with someone that I really wanted to watch the.

Same time as the cribs.

Tricky, tricky, tricky.

I was at Truck Festival and you clash with someone I really wanted to watch kind of who it was.

19:26

My brother watched him and said they're going to be massive.

He was buzzing.

And you were at something else in Glastonbury.

Glastonbury as well I guess.

That's the sort of legendary well in the in the West Side cowboy four of us.

It's it's quite a legendary show because we clashed with Pope's secret set, which which is what, which is what we wanted to watch.

19:47

We had we played so poorly because we could just kind of hear Pope and everyone, everyone having a good time.

And it also never went anywhere where it was that was, that was a, that was a dark moment.

But that leads on to something cards and they'll ask you, actually.

So there's a song on your album called Patchwork.

20:05

Is it secretly Pope?

Oh yeah, because that's what they were on the poster.

Sorry.

Meese joke.

That really.

Meese joke?

Yeah, They were billed as being called Patchwork at Glastonbury.

No.

Well, at least one person got the jokes.

20:20

OK, Very much at the back.

So basically, I'm friends with your mastering engineer, Felix Davis.

He says hello, guy.

He says hello.

And there was, I think it's the third or fourth some on the album.

I've not heard it yet.

I'm really excited to and there's a song that he really wants me to hear.

20:38

Tell me everything about Dobro please.

Oh.

Everything.

Tell me enough about.

Dobro, I don't where do you start with that?

I don't know.

What is it?

What rephrase the question.

So you've got a lot of really, really fast songs and a couple of really slow, gentle songs.

20:54

Where does this sit?

And those gears?

This, this one's a strut.

This is right down the middle.

This is, I remember we were trying to track it with Lauren and maybe we were rushing a bit too much as usual.

And he's like, we come out, listen to the take.

He's like, it's not it.

You need to slow it down a bit.

21:10

You got to you got to move your shoulders.

You got to do that.

That's like strutting down the street.

So yeah, we can do that.

And I know it.

It's it's a song that sort of came very, very quickly.

I think maybe we got came back from the pub or, or it might have been a gig or something and I came back and just recorded it on my tape machine at home.

21:32

Little 4 track cassette recorder.

I think the original recording is like a minute and a half long, but it's like all the little pieces are there.

And then within like a couple of days, we, I showed it to these guys and we're like, let's all right, let's stick it together and make it a proper thing.

Yeah, to come together.

21:49

Very, very quick actually.

I'm interested in this strut that you mentioned from Lauren.

Is that something you've adopted for London and Manchester now?

The Lauren New York strut?

Or I don't know, but it's I feel like the strut was mentioned quite a lot in this recording.

It's like trying to find that pocket where it's like you don't want to rush it.

22:06

You got to find it.

Find your.

Struttings, we kind of mentioned a lot, we kind of harp on about like we really like our music feeling like it's like moving somewhere, like coming, like coming towards you on some mode of transport, Whether that's like walking or cycling or sometimes sprinting or whatever, I don't know.

22:27

It varies depending on the song.

We have, we have this test for, we've done it with the past 2 EPS and we, I did it with this album.

Don't know if you guys did the cycle test.

Yeah.

Tell me everything about the cycle.

We do.

You get a mix back and you go, well, turn the guitars up and send me back another one.

22:44

So then you get that mix and then you go, right, OK, sounds all right.

But now I've got to go test it on the bicycle, down, straight down Oxford Rd., dodging as many potholes as possible and as many buses and taxis and pedestrians that walk in the bike lane.

Don't do that.

23:01

And off your phone, get off your phone.

Talk to my language.

And if it passes that test, then the mix is probably good I think.

People don't really talk about I think is like, we're getting mixes back and you're like, oh, I need to unpick this song and make sure that it's good.

23:20

But you're just like sat listening to it, like on your like sofa or at your desk at home.

And it's like, what other instance have I sat down and listened to music like this?

And when when I was like when I was like, this doesn't sound like music.

23:35

It's like, yeah, because I'm not listening to it in any context that works.

So that's where.

So you're saying your new album, it's a cycling album, That is when we should be listening to it.

With a few rest stops for a coffee when?

Appropriate.

Be safe, you know, wear a helmet and things.

23:53

And just don't use your phone whilst yeah, don't.

Thank you very much.

This has been great guys.

But we have another album to discuss today.

Now normally I'm very researched but this has been a very last minute put together thing and I don't know much about the album we're discussing.

24:09

So guys, tell me, which album are we deep diving today?

There was a lot of there was a lot to pick from, but we we thought we'd choose phonetics on and on by Horse Girl, which came out I think springtime of last year.

It's just an album that we all collectively we we love a load of albums as a band, but with this one feels quite informative to us now.

24:34

I think it was like very influential on the the writing and the recording of it goes on in what way?

Oh man, it's a load of ways we we loved how we love our skeletal.

It is like you listen to it and it feels like if the whole thing is so thin sounding, but it like gets the point across at every turn and everything feels really concise.

24:59

But even even though it's like skeletal and like there's, there's loads of like intricacies and like strange little bits that like pop up here and there that are like that.

Maybe you just think it sounds cool at first, but then with repeated listen, you're like, oh, what's that over in my left ear?

25:16

And what's that?

And that's those are always the best albums, the ones that you can like find like another fun thing every time you go back to it.

There's there's a lot to love about this album.

We've got fun little things.

Hidden in the mix, yeah.

Yeah, OK, I heard.

We were listening that was a different that was oh, no, on on switchover.

25:36

We've heard a, there's a triangle in like I'm pretty sure in the left ear in verse 2, which of switchover and, and we've been listening to that song for like a year and I was on the train today being like something like ringing a bell in my ear or something.

25:55

But it all adds like they like, yeah, it all comes together in such a cool way.

But then you look a little closer and you see all the cogs move in and things.

And we really like music that sounds like that things that feels like a mechanism sort of.

And you see like the pulleys and the weights and all the yeah, all the stuff like that.

26:12

I don't know if that makes any sense.

I don't know much about Horse Girl.

Where are they from?

How did you discover them?

When are they in your orbit?

Tell me more about this band.

I think they're from Chicago.

They Gigi, the drummer is the the the sibling of Kice of is it is it or we're not sure, but they are siblings with a guy with Kai Slater and maybe some other members who were in a band called Lifeguard who are like another great Chicago band.

26:45

Yeah.

They're.

They're like, yeah, similarly great guitar band and yeah, I think I remember hearing like they have a song called A Borum Dance scene, which I think was one of their first singles and great song title that sounds.

Very fun.

Yeah, it's it's.

A beautiful song.

27:01

It's a little more atmospheric, like their first singles, and their first album is a little more maybe.

I don't know whether shoegaze used the right word, but a little wider sounding maybe.

And then when the first singles came out for Phonetics, on and on, they did it with Caleb on producing and, and they just had cleared.

27:21

It sounded like they'd just thrown all of their pedals away and they're just gone.

We're going to play.

Exactly.

It's like someone just put one microphone up in their rehearsal room in some ways.

And that feels so exciting to us, I think, because I think we're coming off the back of a lot of music that feels like there's a lot of really great examples of like shoe gaze music or music with loads and loads of layers and effects and whatever.

27:45

But to hear something that was so stripped back and so dry sounding was like we all found really exciting and things because I noticed that I've listened.

To it once, listened to it on the way over here earlier.

Really enjoyed it.

It reminded me straight away of two bands.

It was girl ray and beach fossils.

How am I?

28:01

Doing.

Is that about right I?

I don't know this girl.

Beach Fossils first album anyway, which is very different to the rest of that stuff, really sparse and Harrison Bell.

From touring guitars, Fetishes of You is a big Beach Fossils fan and he showed me an album of theirs a while ago.

28:17

I bet you guys had really big.

Beach fossils, yeah, I'd start at the beginning, work your way forward.

It's a really great trajectory band.

Amazing.

We'll have to go back to it, but.

Yeah, we've all got homework now.

Guys, this is the podcast.

This is what happens.

You mentioned your album's a cycling album.

What would be the perfect setting to listen to this album?

28:34

Similar, I think similar kind of back on the bike motor a little bit more.

It's a little bit more like walking based, I think.

I think I like it's.

Yeah.

Well, well, I did a lot of walks into uni with with that.

28:50

And where are we walking to uni?

OK, yeah, we'll just bring some uni and.

Then work and then like back home.

And did it all very well.

Solitary.

Headphones.

Big time.

Big headphone album.

OK, And what emotions do you feel when you put this album on?

29:06

What does it do to you?

Oh, you know.

What I really like this album because it's it's one of my favorite albums that like doesn't make me want to like cry or like I don't think it's trying to make you feel like really deep, like like like emotions for much like I I think it's, I think it's it's just like really good fun, nice music to have on And it like like that sounds like it sounds like a bad thing.

29:40

But like so many, I feel like so much sort of so much is so much like a sort of credit is given to albums that are like like that you finish and then you feel like you've had your heart ripped out or whatever.

It's like a serious album feels like it's more likely to be your favorite album or the best album that's ever made or something, you know, like, you know, an album like a crow looked at me or something.

30:05

I I like it's, it's good, but it's like, I don't know why I would give that more credit just just because it's like really heavy.

Yeah, this album is just like like.

Kind.

Of like feel good and and a bit random and and just fun and and not so serious at all.

30:29

It feels like there are some like.

In like, building on what you're saying, I would maybe I feel like there are like some incidental moments of like where it's more emotional, but it's like, like what you say is like it's not trying to like ram some like some really profound feeling down your throat.

30:46

It's enough.

Yeah.

Yeah, love that.

What do you make of the artwork, guys?

I've not even looked at it properly yet.

Describe the artwork to me for this album.

It looks really cool.

Yeah, it's kind of stark, I guess.

It's it's really.

Beautiful.

It's like I wanted to steal so much of it so badly for like every.

31:06

I think that's always a good sign when like the look of something is like, I love the style of this.

Who does all of that?

I'm so annoyed that I haven't used something yet because now they like it just.

I think it's always so good when you can get an idea of the music or of the band from it and like, it's another way to like inform people's perspective or people's like position of how they should view the music and how they should listen to it.

31:37

And what I think is so awesome about this album is again, an immense compliment.

I think it feels like like incredibly well crafted and recorded nursery rhymes.

Like I think it's just like these amazing, like earworms that are like friendly and like like childish and fun and like, it's just like playground games.

32:01

And I think, I think I can't remember who the artist is, but I was speaking to someone about it and it's all done by the same person.

Their artwork at the at the moment of the cover, it's like it's like outsourced.

But yeah, I think it's this beautiful, sort of, I don't know what the material is, but it's very like block like cartoon like, I don't know, it looks like illustrations in a children's book.

32:34

Just to go on from that, this is not really to do with the artwork, but the the like sort of nice well crafted nursery rhymes thing.

It sort of reminds me of like like I'm sticking with you by the Velvet Underground or something like that.

32:51

It's like.

Yeah, as a.

We so, I mean, yeah, but it, it's like a it's like a continuation on that sort of that sort of, I hate to use the word vibe, but vibe deck sort of crops up in Velvet Underground or crops up in the magnetic fields where it's like this feels like you could sing it to your child, but somehow it's like it also in an incredible song And that, yeah, we, we on a more sort of like a design level.

33:23

We've I mean, the whole scale have probably been on all the, all the mood boards that we've ever created.

You know, it's it's they're just, they're just kind of effortlessly cool and awesome.

Yeah.

Love it.

I normally ask, like, how would you sell this album to someone that's not heard it before?

33:41

But guys, you've beat me to it.

You smashed it.

So what's the worst bit of this album?

You've spoken so eloquently about it.

What's the bit that doesn't work for you?

That doesn't work.

Doesn't work.

I'm going.

To reverse the question afterwards, I'm not a total monster.

33:56

Don't mind, there's one.

Technically worst bit.

I turned to Paddy today while we we had a listen on the train.

We had a little headphone splitter.

We did a little our own private listening party and there's a song towards the end and I turned to Paddy and I went.

34:12

The drum symbols sound exactly the way that the drums used to sound in my school practice room.

That is a nice.

Reference like a 20.

Pound drum kit or something like that.

Like technically they're they're awful sounding symbols, but I really like them.

34:30

It all feels so like it's all made of paper.

Yeah, but that like so I guess someone could call that a bad thing maybe from a more if you're like some like production with you'd be like, Oh my God, like like it's also like weedy and stuff.

34:46

But yeah, it's it's hard.

Yeah.

Are we, are we cheating at that question?

But that's a good answer.

I really like that.

That is really good you'll find.

Enjoyable was like a.

Backhanded insult.

Yeah.

Yeah, that shit bit.

'S actually quite good, yeah, yeah.

What's the best bit of the album then, guys?

35:05

Exact same bit.

Yeah, that's a good.

Answer.

This has been.

Amazing Westside Cowboy.

I've really, really enjoyed getting to know you and hearing about the things that make you excited.

But there is one last feature on the podcast.

35:22

It's really, really excitingly titled The Quick Fire Round.

So I think what we'll do, I think we'll start of yourself and then we'll pass the mic down one by one.

OK, I know, I know.

Who's the best new band in the world right now?

That's the worst question ever.

35:40

Can I just say it loaded really quick?

Fire him off Holly head wire mold push bike Bramwell I've done as many as I can.

It's not bad for a quick.

35:56

Fire but.

It's pretty good going.

Best new band from Manchester right now?

Right now, spot for choice.

Really.

I mean, I've it's.

36:12

A good sorry you had your.

Go.

Wyatt, thank you very much.

And Holly Head best ever.

Banned from Manchester.

Paddy.

New Order.

36:28

I would say, yeah, you do look a.

Lot like the drummer.

Is that the?

He's got this.

Before OK YouTube.

Comments.

There you go.

Sorry to bring that up.

Dream collaboration?

Is that a nicer question?

Sorry.

Yeah.

Dead or alive Optional.

36:47

Me personally or the whole band.

What a sweet way to.

Think about this question.

You can do both.

Go on, me.

Personally, I'd like to work with Judy Sill.

Because I just say that I covered on the podcast a few weeks ago just the.

Best I I like I just would want to speak to her.

37:07

Oh man.

Yeah, I just want to.

What's the vibe?

I want to know.

I want to know everything.

And then for the band.

Oh, collaboration.

Yeah.

37:27

Sorry, this is really hard.

Yeah.

Must remind you.

Quick fire.

Quick fire, quick.

Fire.

I've forgotten everything.

Elvis Presley.

One band.

Yeah.

Yeah, Elvis.

Presley.

Vegas.

Backing band?

Yeah, Elvis.

Elvis Presley's backing band Can I play tambourine or?

Something that sounds like a right laugh.

37:43

Yes, yes.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

We're going to need 5 tambourine.

Players and.

It's got to be.

It's got to.

Be them like live on the show.

You get what I mean?

The comeback show, like the comeback special where they're obviously on like on like like loads of drugs, like we won't be obviously, but but I would like to hear like all of the crazy, all the drum feels.

38:07

Yeah, sorry.

Carry on.

Please are great.

Would you rather kick stones or throw rocks?

Throw rocks.

Thank you very much.

Arctic Monkeys or The Strokes.

Or The Strokes.

Sorry.

Jamie.

No.

Wrong.

Answer Oasis or blur.

38:23

Oh, come.

This is some simple answer I.

I.

I don't Oh no, because I something that would have.

No hold.

On for the whole band.

I love how.

Much you care about, so I know this.

Is a quick, we're not.

38:40

I would have said blur up until like more recently when I think Oasis, when they're firing, I think, I don't know, I think.

Geese band or geese animal?

Geese band because a goose once broke my great grandma's arm.

38:59

This is why I ask.

These questions, this is the kind of insight I need.

Being sure slowly or doing taxidermy strangely.

Being sure slowly, I think taxidermy.

I think taxidermy is an is a questionable veganism point, yeah.

39:18

That's.

True, actually strange taxidermy, but the animal is like not is not real.

Yeah, not real there.

You go perfect.

Yeah, Man United or Man City?

I'm going to say Man United.

Yeah, absolutely.

Fine, don't worry.

And one last one, Paddy.

39:33

It's a mouthful.

I bet that you look good on the dance floor.

Or you could have died there on the dance floor, as some I've not heard yet, by the way, from the upcoming West Side Cowboy album.

Which one's better?

I guess so.

Well.

39:48

We've we've got an album to sell.

So so a song, of course.

Yeah, sorry, Jamie Cook, we did borrow some of your amps for the album, but thanks Jamie.

I.

Appreciate it.

Thank you very much.

Guys, this has been.

Amazing.

The floor is yours to plug.

Promote anything coming up in the next 12 months.

40:05

The floor is yours.

We we're going.

On tour?

Going on tour this autumn we have an album coming out, it's called It Goes on What date?

On the 21st of August please.

If you're, if you have the money and you can afford to, please do things that aren't streaming because not because we want the money, but because it's just a way cooler thing to do.

40:28

Own your music because it lasts forever.

Yeah.

Support your local music scene.

Listen to Wyatt and Holly had consider veganism.

You're talking to a fellow vegan.

It Oh, let's go.

40:45

Yeah, let's go get some.

Fucking tofu.

I've been with your hand.

They've been West Side cowboy, they were Horse girl and this has been bunch of vegans talking about an album.

41:14

Additional bit of quick fire activity.

I think maybe we should plug some other albums that were on the shortlist because four people choosing an album.

I'm an absolute monster making you do this guys like God.

I'm trying to test band apart the.

Drums self-titled album.

41:29

Yeah.

The Velvet Underground The Velvet Underground.

The Velvet Underground loaded.

Bandwagon esque teenage fan club.

I listened to teenage.

Fan club for the first time.

Grand Prix last week.

Oh, that's so.

41:44

Good SO.

Good.

So more teenage fan club to come for me.

Yeah, yeah, great.

The last.

That was one of them.

I covered that on the podcast.

Last week, the last.

Live at the BBC, Yeah.

First Violent Femmes album, that's a great album we love a lot.

We love see deep in for.

42:01

What you got?

I'm I'm.

I'm.

Thinking we all, we all really really love the The Dove Ellis album.

Blizzard as well.

So, so, so that one shout out, Tom.

Yeah.

Me, me and Paddy, actually, we play on, we do all of about this on it.

42:18

That was you in that weird noise in the middle.

Of the That's us, Yeah, it's pretty.

Much it the same way again.

Yeah, that's our, that's our.

That's our claim to fame, yes, with that and.

Now one of the best albums of the year.

So, so excited for you guys.

You know the summer of your lives.

42:34

Let's fucking have it, thank.

You so much.

Thank you.

Not hearing the album.

No, it's but I think.

Between four people, there'll be enough of you to sort of put some gaps on there's.

Just one person.

42:50

I didn't like the band.

I'd be a bit like, oh fuck it I.

Really like your band and there's. 4 of you so I think we yeah, thank you so.

We're amazing guys.

Well done.

Thank.

You so much.

Thanks so much.